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Coalition to vote against ETS

12 Nov, 2009 05:39 AM
THE Opposition will vote against the emissions trading bill in the House of Representatives early next week, even while negotiations on its amendments are continuing.

Shadow cabinet on Monday will discuss tactics for the house vote. But emissions spokesman Ian Macfarlane yesterday confirmed the vote against. If the vote had been taken during the last sitting, as the Opposition wanted, the Coalition would have opposed the bills.

Although there would be an argument for not opposing in the house on "good faith" grounds during the negotiations, a vote against would prevent the split in Coalition ranks being put on show before the legislation gets to the Senate, where the detailed amendments would be moved if a Government-Opposition deal was reached.

The Government Senate leader, Chris Evans, yesterday wrote to parties and independent Senator Nick Xenophon saying the Government would largely dedicate the next sitting fortnight to the legislation, extending Senate hours if necessary. The bills will arrive in the Senate by Tuesday. The Government wanted to ensure the legislation was voted on this year, the letter said. Family First's Steve Fielding said he opposed an extension of hours, because the vote should be delayed until after Copenhagen.

As talks between Climate Minister Penny Wong and Mr Macfarlane continued yesterday, the Nationals leader in the Senate, Barnaby Joyce, said a petition against the legislation he had organised had attracted 5000 signatures so far.

Senator Joyce, who has campaigned relentlessly against the scheme, said if there was a difference with the Liberals, it should not be allowed to split the Coalition.

"That would be a terrible outcome and a ridiculous outcome," he told Sky News.

"You'd have to be out of your tree to suggest something like that," he said. The coalition was a vital mechanism to have a conservative opposition to deal with the Labor Government.

"If someone wants to suggest that [breaking the coalition], well, it just goes to show how completely politically naive they are."

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Who cares what this mob of rabble thinks!
Posted by tigerdicky, 12/11/2009 7:25:34 AM
This opposition is a toothless tiger who feeds on ignorance - why haven't they stood up before? Why haven't they pushed for the details of the Copenhagen treaty to be made clear before, why haven't they actively informed us of its implications? Well when they make speeches as linked below it's not surprising! www.twawki.wordpress.com
Posted by alph, 12/11/2009 8:32:05 AM
Tigerdicky, when yours and most of our incomes won't cover the basic daily necessities in your life, let alone the unforseen extras, you may want to think back to this moment. We have a government hell bent on implementing an ETS, regardless of the impact on our standard of living. We also have an Opposition who, may I remind you, are elected to oppose and keep the Government of the day answerable.
Posted by Pat, 13/11/2009 8:06:53 AM
Pat, where do you get off saying that you won't be able to afford the basic neccesities of life? That is the sort of unsubstantiated rhetoric that takes this debate away from being in any way constructive or meaningful.
Posted by the lorax, 13/11/2009 8:15:11 AM
The Opposition isn't elected to oppose, they are the losers. They oppose because they want to make the government look bad, regardless of whether the subject is right or wrong, so that they can be elected as the government next election ... and this is done by both sides of the fence. They are only in it for themselves!!
Posted by Farmer Dave, 13/11/2009 8:44:15 AM
I think the opposition is taking the only pragmatic path. Whether or not you believe an ETS will affect the climate (I do not), it is demonstrably true that there will be no binding global agreement in Hopenchangen.

In the absence of a global agreement, the ETS will be a job-destroying tax in Australia and a boon for other countries where we will send our last remaining export - our jobs.

In the absence of defeating it totally, at the very least it should be taken to Copenhagen as a non-legislated option and only really considered if other developed countries do it (I'm looking at you, America).

For full disclosure, I am a "sceptic" who genuinely believes that the climate is changing (although we're in a period of flat temps), but that CO2 is a minor contributor.

To me, the major human driver is urban encroachment, land use changes, deforestation etc., actual problems we can address.

An ETS would be disaster but if we're going to commit national seppuku, I'd rather we didn't do it alone.

Posted by DMS, 13/11/2009 11:47:57 AM

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Q: Has the emissions trading debate changed your voting intentions?

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