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Days of 'fine' weather are over: Bureau

21 Jan, 2009 02:32 PM
Fine days could soon be a thing of the past, not because of a big wave of wet seasons, but a major revamp to weather forecasting terminology used by the Bureau of Meteorology.

The word "fine" has already been phased out in Victoria where a preliminary trial of a new seven-day forecasting service in a whopping 80 centres has been overwhelmingly successful.

The new system is using fully-worded descriptions to detail conditions more accurately for the week ahead.

Depending on the final outcome of the project the new system could be rolled out nationally, doing away with the often frustrating description "fine" to avoid confusion with its other meanings like "excellent", "comfortable" or "high quality".

The Bureau's national manager of public, marine and agricultural weather services, Alasdair Hainsworth, said the new system has the capacity to provide more information about a particular week's weather conditions than just words like "fine".

He said farmers would probably agree extended periods of hot, dry weather were anything but fine or excellent, and therefore improved forecasts with detailed descriptions using temperatures, sky conditions, wind and rain outlooks would better inform them and others reliant on the weather.

"A word like 'fine' can mean different things to different people," Mr Hainsworth said.

"From market research we've done, 'fine' in particular is not a word that is well understood in the community.

"Surfers who hear the word 'fine' can think it's a good day to go surfing, and that is simply not the case.

"Many people interpret 'fine' as a nice day, which is sunny, with light winds, when our definition in the Bureau is no rain.

"It could still be very windy, hot or cloudy and be a 'fine' day, which is why we're trying to eliminate it from the forecast."

Mr Hainsworth said the new generation system is the biggest revamp to forecasting at the bureau in 20 years.

He said the Victorian trial commenced in October and would run at least six months before a decision was made on any national roll-out.

An online survey on the new system had so far recorded strong support among about 88pc of responses.

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I can say their forecasting hasn't been 'fine' of late. They have been way off the mark in our area. I have found that the more they crow about good rain coming the less likely it is to happen. I look at the sky and clouds for myself. It is often more accurate.
Posted by High Country Gent, 22/01/2009 6:32:15 AM
For something as chaotic as the weather fine was just fine for me and still would be. Changing the language always increases confusion.
Posted by Ted O'Brien, 22/01/2009 6:49:54 AM
More spin. Have a look at a 28 Day rainfall outlook and see how accurate that is. If this outlook is indicitive of the quality we get from BOM, then we are wasting millions of dollars giving these guys a sophisticated IT infrastructure to play with and produce models that are innacurate. It makes it tough to plan plantings and generally gain a picture of what the weather will be.
Posted by Ando, 22/01/2009 7:19:02 AM
Well droughts have vanished being replaced by "periods of dryness" so I guess fine weather, meaning no rain expected, should also get the heave-ho. The word "fine" has many different meanings ranging from delicate to highest quality but really is there anybody out there who does not know its meaning when applied to weather? Leave our language alone.
Posted by Blair Bartholomew, 22/01/2009 8:02:03 AM
As could be predicted, the Mexicans just don't understand English.
Posted by ERN007, 22/01/2009 8:12:58 AM
The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English: 5. Fine "Bright and clear, free from precipitation or thick fog and with some sunshine". Hey guys concentrate on what you're paid to do, forecast weather and leave the language alone.
Posted by steffi, 22/01/2009 11:32:31 AM
I flew from Longreach to Winton some years ago and phoned the local stock agent for a weather report. He said 'fine'. 40 miles out weather turned very nasty and only made destination at 500 feet. Explanation was that having had no rain for months was overdue and that this rain was 'fine"!
Posted by Brian Sullivan, 22/01/2009 2:02:11 PM
ENR007 may be correct. Given that the Mexicans are closer to the Equator than those who began making this kind of remark, I presume that ENR007 thinks the Mexicans come from NSW. However, the Mexicans I have met in Mexico were very polite and would not be so ready to criticise with racist comments.
Posted by Annoyed, 23/01/2009 5:28:37 PM
Just more 'politically correct' crap . When the real problems can't be fixed they have to be seen to be doing SOMETHING.
Posted by Jude, 26/01/2009 10:11:45 AM

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