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'Rich' farmers face means test for drought aid

21 Sep, 2008 06:40 PM
Farmers face being means-tested because of billions of dollars put aside in savings while accepting taxpayer-funded drought relief.

New figures show people on the land have built up $2.8billion in Farm Management Deposits (FMDs) across Australia.

Up to 10,848 NSW farmers hold $594million in the accounts, which are exempt from means testing for drought relief schemes, including interest subsidies.

The Rudd Government is reviewing all assistance to farmers as part of a national review of drought policy amid concerns "less viable or riskier farming operations" are favoured.

Professor Bruce Chapman, from the Australian National University, said FMDs needed to be means tested.

The deposits were designed to give farmers favourable tax breaks to help them build up money in good times for eventual downturns.

"It is important that FMDs are seen as the main mechanism for supporting farmers to manage their cash flow across the climate cycle, so they should be included in the means test for any form of business support offered during downturn," Professor Chapman said in a submission with colleague Dr Linda Botterill to the drought review.

"It is often asserted that farmers should not be required to access FMDs because they are a form of superannuation.

"This is a spurious argument.

"Changes to superannuation in recent years provide all members of the community with a range of choices for the accumulation of retirement savings and these are equally available to farmers.

"FMDs were not set up for this purpose."

NSW Farmers Association president Jock Laurie said the notion that the drought was a potential money maker was fanciful.

NSW Farmers have argued in a submission to the Federal Government's drought review that the FMD system be retained and extended to trusts and companies, as well as lifting the $400,000 cap on deposits.

"I am quite amazed that this suggestion has been made that this is making farmers rich," he said.

"It would be helpful for the National Rural Advisory Council or whoever is making these suggestions to actually identify these people getting rich.

"Then they can tell the rest of us how they are doing it.

"The majority of NSW farmers who have held FMDs have now made withdrawals from their accounts.

"The system works. In good seasons they are invested and then when dry times arrive they are drawn down."

Federal Agriculture Minister Tony Burke said the Government was committed to reforming the drought support system.

Meanwhile, drought conditions have worsened in NSW, with more than 70pc of the state now officially drought-declared.

Figures released by the NSW Department of Primary Industries show just 10.8pc of the state, mostly on the eastern coastline, has had normal rainfall and was rated as "satisfactory" in September.

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Did the Reserve Bank of Australia means test the '4-pillar' banks when they threw bucket loads of money at them last month due to their mismanagement of investor and client funds? No of course not! This is just another exercise in the premeditated disenfranchising of the food and fibre producers and families from mainstream city-centric society. This horizon will soon be transformed into some level of balance when we stop being 'price takers' and that will be very soon!
Posted by Clark Goodwin, 22/09/2008 8:13:52 AM
I can understand the means-testing, to some extent. But they can penalise farmers that have had "reasonable" farming practices in place for some years. If they are suffering droughts, give them some assistance to keep going...
Posted by corey, 22/09/2008 9:11:17 AM
Before long there will have to be a re-evaluation of what constitutes "exceptional circumstances". With something like 2000 farmers being on EC handouts for 5 years or more, the circumstances are no longer exceptional, but normal. Governments need to help these people get out of the business.
Posted by Barney, 22/09/2008 11:05:37 AM
Yes I whole heartly agree that drought assistance should be reviewed as I know that there are a number of farmers who receive drought assistance that shouldn't be getting it and a large number of farmers who are on their last dollar and have had little or no assistance. Take a look at some of these company structures - they are the ones that are rorting the system. The farmer who is doing it alone are the ones that need assistance and a fair and reasonable review. I am a one man farmer with no assistance due to the fact I have been forced out to work to keep my female cattle going because I believe in Aussie beef and we need to keep our blood lines. This has been a great cost to me but as a farmer all my life I am a proud person who DOES NOT WANT TO EAT A T BONE FROM OVER SEAS. I KNOW MY BEEF WILL STAND UP TO ANY TEST. WAKE UP MR RUDD AND COME AND TALK TO THE COUNTRY PEOPLE.
Posted by Shirley, 22/09/2008 11:18:51 AM
Farmers will always be price takers - maybe some of these high flying farmers may have to sell their beach front homes and send there kids to public schools instead of private schools. Gee that would hurt. There seems to be one rule for the wheat belt and differing rules for other types of producers.
Posted by shaun, 22/09/2008 6:38:33 PM
If your business can't withstand drought you shouldn't be there. Money should be put away for the bad times not spent on luxury vehicles and lavish holidays when you make it. A lot of businesses in this country would love the lurks/purks this mob gets when they have a hard time.
Posted by shaun, 22/09/2008 6:45:54 PM
Good point about farmers and getting public funds. Even better point about urban people and business getting public funds, as they rarely have any barriers to jump over as compared to rural agriculture business. Don’t see the share holders of the car companies having to sell all there investments, including the house, in order to get the bucket loads of money that is shoveled their way, no questions asked.

Farmers get hit 3 ways as a result; • Pay tax to give to them • Pay higher price for cars • Take a world market income to pay for it.

All I ask, is when is the agri-lobby groups and political parties that tell us they are all for agriculture going to do something? For a start, how about the same form and rules to get govt funding of your business?

Posted by dunart, 22/09/2008 7:53:33 PM
Monies put aside by farmers into such schemes as FMD, shares real estate etc are all part of planning & business direction. They are also part of superannuation and plans for self funded retirement. These people (farmers) that are self funding their retirement are exempt from EC payouts, while other farmers who have nothing put aside and will rely on the usual retirement plan of selling their farm as they retire or going on the pention as part of a succesion plan, will be eligible for more $ from the governement. I say the farmers that have $ put aside are the better businesmen and should be the only ones eligable for EC payout!
Posted by Jim, 22/09/2008 8:21:28 PM
Some of the comments display the total ignorance about what really happens in the agriculture sector. Like the comment that all farmers have beach houses. Nothing could be further from the truth, and if you know anything about getting govt hand outs in agriculture, you will find that you would have to sell any house you owned to even make the cost of applying have any chance of succeeding. In reality, the protected sector is the urban areas. If you don’t believe that comment, compare the price of any commodity, or service, with the world market price, and it is really only agriculture that has the same market price in this economy. In fact wheat at the farm gate is cheaper here than in china, but even Chinese products are much more expensive here than in china. (From personal experience)

Let us begin the fight to achieve a world market competitive domestic sector, and don't come that crap about we have higher costs here, as agriculture buys from the same market to produce its products. After working in both sectors, life in the city is relaxing in comparison and love the pay rise when taxes go up.

Posted by dunart, 23/09/2008 8:30:26 AM
I think Shaun needs to stop making cheap shots at the desperate farming community and get out there and spend a month voluntarily helping a farmer keep his stock alive. This might mean, that is if Shaun is a fast learner, the farming family might be able to take a well earned holiday for a week or two and lift their spirits.
Posted by Blind Freddy, 23/09/2008 1:19:39 PM
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