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COP 15: IPCC slams farmer scepticism

17 Dec, 2009 08:58 AM
ONE of the Europe's leading agricultural scientists and a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has rejected farmer scepticism and criticism that climate change is not real or not a result of human activity.

Danish-based Jorgen Olesen, from the Faculty of Rural Sciences at the University of Aarhus, says farmers who question the existence of climate change have often not bothered to read the IPCC report on climate change, and rarely took part in the review process.

Speaking to Rural Press from the Copenhagen climate change negotiations, Professor Olesen said the IPCC had the "most open review process" of literature that he'd been involved in.

He said the IPCC was not about generating new science but review, and making an overview assessment of existing knowledge on climate change, its impacts, and how we adapt to and mitigate its effects.

Professor Olesen was one of the lead authors of the European chapter on climate change in the IPCC report.

He said all the comments that came in regarding the review of literature for the IPCC report had to be addressed, and anybody could comment.

"The thing that bothers me about climate sceptics is they don't interact with this process. They can read the drafts, they can comment, but mostly they don’t," he said.

"They don't interact with the process, they just come out afterwards and say this is total bull, it's natural variability, or whatever.

"I feel that is a bit dishonest, because if you really wanted to influence what the IPCC is saying then you would go into the reviewing process and argue with the assessment reports.

"We look at all the evidence and it is not all in one direction.

"There are various issues, there's a lot about climate systems we don't know fully.

"If we look at the warming that we've had for the past 30 years we cannot find evidence on natural causes on that warming.

"We don't exclude them; there might be something we don't know yet.

"But all the suggested processes cannot explain that warming being anything other than human-related.

"In fact there's recently been a reduction in solar activity which should cause a cooling, and that might be the cause of the fact that we've not seen a global increase for the past 10 years or so.

"But if warming had been due to natural causes, we should have had a cooling but we instead have a standstill."

Professor Oleson said he could understand why scepticism existed because climate change meant a change in lifestyle and practices.

"People are intrinsically resistant to change," he said.

"We all want to lead our lives as we have them right now.

"But so do the people that are suffering already … and they are not the people who are creating all the emissions.

"Those people in developed countries – in cities and suburbs especially – are the ones responsible for most of this.

"I think in my opinion we are talking about this issue in the wrong way.

"We are all talking about the need to do reductions.

"The word reduction also means this is bad, it means I can't live my life the way I used to and it will get used.

"Instead we should be talking about how we can develop a sustainable way for humans on this earth that will also carry a good life."

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If your not a member of the club you have no right to comment on what the club says or does. That might be OK if the club wasn't trying to tell the rest of the world what to do.
Posted by Qlander, 17/12/2009 6:58:33 AM
Quote, from Professor Jorgen Olesen, in the story above: - He said all the comments that came in regarding the review of literature for the IPCC report had to be addressed, and anybody could comment. - Qlander, do you see that? Anybody could comment. There is no club. The point about climate science, any science, is that researchers have their work PUBLISHED and then invite comment. Prof Olesen is asking sceptics to please take part in the process. Anyone can ...
Posted by nico, 17/12/2009 7:56:27 AM
Professor Olesson said he could understand why scepticism existed because climate change meant a change in lifestyle and practices. "People are intrinsically resistant to change," he said. "We all want to lead our lives as we have them right now." This I believe why the sceptic think the way they do someone has given them an excuse not to change. But change will and is happening. Species that don't adapt become extinct, that is just a fact of life.
Posted by Mike, 17/12/2009 7:58:29 AM
nico, sceptics publish their work on the internet were ANYONE can comment/review it not just member of the club. The overriding arguement of the sceptics is that they are not allowed to see the computer codes and data behind the claims of the alarmists. Show them the code and the data and shut them up.
Posted by Qlander, 17/12/2009 9:31:38 AM
How bout the Sun as a natural cause of heat? I mean it is a Gigantic ball of fire right...???
Posted by Dantronamus, 17/12/2009 9:53:30 AM
Not withstanding the IPCC protestations they look at everything in an ubiased way - check out the recently released: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100020126/climategate-goes-serial-now-the-russians-confirm-that-uk-climate-scientists-manipulated-data-to-exaggerate-global-warming/ Turns out the CRU crew cherry picked the Russian data only picking temperatures which were subjected to urban warming. Maybe now that data which hasn't been "lost, homogenized, oor value added" is coming out an honest discussion can take place.
Posted by RealTH, 17/12/2009 10:03:42 AM
This Mike guy lives on another planet. Mate, so far the only ones who have made changes are the farmers, through all the planting trees BS. You and you're professor mates are still sittiing up in front of the traffic lights, still flying here and there, big noting yourselves, still been fed the silver spoon through coal exports, and then you talk about change. What change? The size of you're pay packet? And here they are at Copenhagen, meant to be the brains of the world, and all they can come up with is some forestry plan. And a cow having a fart. No, this climate change is a conspiracy and just an excuse to steal land.
Posted by kevin dudd, 17/12/2009 10:17:59 AM
You're spot on kevin dudd: Climate alarmists are like religous pedlers, they don't entertain anyone's thoughts or views that don't concur with their own. Check out www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp (A tale of two houses) Al Gore would have to be the perfect example of hypocracy. Will climate alarmists support the abandoning of night sporting events to reduce sports carbon footprint? Of course not, the only climate change the AFL & NRL notice is Hey! it's starting to rain.
Posted by steffi, 17/12/2009 10:49:12 AM
What a biased piece. Might as well have been a press release from Jorgen Olesen.
Posted by Cal, 17/12/2009 11:16:42 AM
How dare the heretics blaspheme in the presence of the global warming devout.
Posted by Let us pay, in the name of the farter the sun and the holy gas, 17/12/2009 12:08:47 PM
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