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ETS disarray - vote to be delayed until May

23 Feb, 2010 05:37 AM
THE future of the government's emissions trading scheme was in disarray last night with claims that the Senate vote on the bill could be delayed until May.

The possible delay, the result of the opposition blocking a procedural vote in the Senate, has cast fresh doubt on the government's ability to create an election trigger on its amended climate legislation.

Last night the government was seeking legal advice about whether it could force an earlier vote than the May sitting. Each side blamed the other for the delay, which resulted from the Senate's blocking a motion yesterday to speed up the debate.

The government has already dropped the emissions trading scheme from the parliamentary schedule this week to give priority to establishing a double dissolution election trigger on its changes to the private health insurance means test.

The potential delay comes as the government has been holding talks with the independent senator Nick Xenophon and two dissident Liberal senators about a proposal from the Greens for a compromise climate deal.

But the unlikely compromise, which would establish a short-term carbon tax, may prove stillborn as Senator Xenophon last night ruled out his crucial vote.

The Climate Change Minister, Penny Wong, and the Greens senator Christine Milne have met three times to discuss the Greens' proposal for a two-year carbon tax.

It is understood Senator Wong's office told the Greens the government was reluctant to budge on a higher carbon price, an earlier start date or giving up compensation for coal-fired electricity generators.

The Greens have proposed a two-year $23 carbon tax to start in July, with compensation for heavy-polluting, trade-exposed industries, but not coal.

The first year of the government's proposed scheme has set a carbon price of $10, starts in July 2011 and has extensive compensation for heavy industry and coal-fired electricity.

It is understood Senator Wong suggested the Greens develop an alternative package that met the government's conditions. The Greens are taking advice on this.

The government is a long way from committing to any compromise but the talks have widened in recent weeks.

Senator Wong and Senator Milne have contacted two Liberal senators, Sue Boyce and Judith Troeth, who crossed the floor last year to support an amended emissions trading scheme.

Senator Troeth said yesterday she would consider a proposal only when it had been completed and was before the Senate.

Senator Xenophon also met Senator Wong yesterday, floating a short-term carbon price of $3-$5 to encourage investment in renewable energy.

But last night Senator Xenophon was stepping back from that position. ''The extra advice I've been given suggests it would just be a nuisance tax and something more substantial is needed,'' he said. ''If you are not going to do it properly, don't do it at all.''

He reiterated his preference for an intensity-based emissions trading scheme, as opposed to the government's cap and trade system, which has been proposed by Frontier Economics.

The Climate Institute's chief executive, John Connor, also met Senator Wong's and Senator Milne's staff last week to discuss the Greens proposal.

Mr Connor said yesterday he had told Senator Wong's office that while he still supported passage of the government's scheme, the Greens' proposal would be the next best option.

The Greens would not comment on the details of the talks yesterday.

Senator Wong's spokesman also said the government would not comment.

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What about running the country Rudd?
Posted by tigerdicky, 23/02/2010 7:25:38 AM
Just forget about all this rubbish and wasting time and money and start debating some real issues affecting this country: hospitals, roads, rail, water, population growth etc. Lamb chop was given the flick by Cardinal Pell about man being the cause of global warming.
Posted by jerangle, 23/02/2010 9:57:46 AM
The bill is due to be debated as the second order of business on the senate red running sheet. I bleive that Rudd wants to get on wiht running the country, it is the opposition that is prevcenting Rudd undertaking the governing tha the recieved a clear mandate for ion the 2007 general election. Abbot and his mob would sell thier grandmother to big business to help thier political siutaion, they are not into doing what is best for the country but doing everything they can to help themselves. The fact that a democratrically elected government is hobbled by independents is a joke.
Posted by the lorax, 23/02/2010 12:41:03 PM
"Men argue. Nature acts." - Voltaire
Posted by Michael Kiely, 24/02/2010 6:15:58 AM
The lorax, one of the great strengths of our system is that each member of Parliament has a vote and if a "government" doesn't have a majority on an issue then it will not pass. The Senate as a house of review has members who represent the public in a different way. This is an attempt to stop gerrymandering etc. It's not perfect, but at least it provides some balance to voting on legislation. The problem we have with political parties is that the loyalty of members is to the party not to the constituents of their electorate. They think that the House of Representatives is where they represent their party, not their electorate. The members of the Senate, even independents, were democratically elected and are doing what they were voted in to do. Represent the people. It is no accident that the government does not have a senate majority. The voters of Australia knew what they were doing.
Posted by ozfirst, 24/02/2010 6:43:59 AM
Krudd can't do what is needed to run the country, that is if he was capable of doing so, which I doubt, because he is hamstrung by a colossal debt with nothing to show for it already. The big tax grab from the ets is what he was banking on. You must be joking lorax, krudd had no policies in that election. Work choices and the massive amount of money put up by the unions against it, is what put Howard out.
Posted by R, 24/02/2010 7:25:42 AM
Everything is in disarray with the Federal government not just the ETS. The home insulation rebate scheme has become a litany of errors, construction costs (per square metre) on the school hall and library projects are scandalous, fuel watch and grocery watch fizzed, the refugee situation is verging on being out of control. The list is endless. Rudd promised everything, has spent everything, has preached about everything imaginable, launched programme after programme across the country and in the final analysis, has delivered precious little for the money spent and the expectations he created. His most successful achievement would apear to be that after only 2 years in power, he has managed to saddle us with some 20 years of debt. Who knows where we would be without the Senate? Peter Saunders
Posted by Peter, 24/02/2010 8:44:10 AM
The lorax a product of the labor school Cant see the wood from the trees!! The libs had the same problem during the first term of the Howard government. Tit for Tat??.... I don't think so, so far Labor has just about bankrupt us, now they want to milk us under the guise of an environmental TAX, with the so called supporting argument (IPCC) completely discredited, 99% fabrication and 1% wishful thinking...........What a joke !!
Posted by Peter Carabot, 24/02/2010 12:04:31 PM
Dear Peter, without any knowledge of my lovely liberal private school upbringing, you can make assertions and then make up statistics to support a nonsensical argument to suit your own prejudices. I have voted for both Liberal and Labor parties at times. I vote on the best policies. You seem to forget that the government debt was slashed under Costello as he moved the debt to the private sector. The trade deficit blew out as he mined the country to the bedrock. The GFC came and all of a sudden we had nothing to show for the boom times, which was made possible by Hawke and Keating reform. Howard dumbed down the electorate, reduced health and education spending and took us to two wars, his environmental credentials were appalling, that's why I did not vote for him. But I disagree with you so I must be a treasonous greenie. The fact is many others also agreed with me and voted Howard out. Rather than advancing and maturing now we have Abbott trying to resurrect the corpses of the Howard era and the One Nation party. The joke is your foolhardy certainty, ignorance and closed minded attitude.
Posted by the lorax, 24/02/2010 1:29:19 PM
It is a pity the lorax doesn't use his own name as he is the only person to have some idea of what has happened in recent Australian political history. The rest are basically headless chooks spewing forth right wing garbage. The head chook isn't even a Liberal, he favours policies straight out or the little red book. Just imagine BJ picking winners and handing out taxpayer dollars. A real Liberal would support market place adjustments. Rabble rousing is a poor substitute for leadership. The leader of the opposition is a liar and this will plague him during the election process. If climatic change is crap as he claims and his headless chooks believe, why spend any money on it all. The Rudd Government saved this country from the worst recession it is ever likely to face. The debt is a product of the failure of the Howard government to make hay whilst the sun shone. The small surpluses they generated were gone in five minutes. This is the central issue, governments get voted out, and when the voters go into the polls they will vote for the Government which insulated them from the economic horrors that have beset every other developed nation. Let the headless chooks rave on.
Posted by Travice, 24/02/2010 2:30:54 PM
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