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Fielding offered talks to sway climate stance

09 Jun, 2009 06:02 AM
FAMILY First senator Steve Fielding has been offered a briefing from top scientists in a bid to change his view that climate change may not be caused by human activity.

Climate Change and Water Minister Penny Wong made the offer yesterday after Senator Fielding returned from a conference in the United States, saying he was not satisfied with the science behind the widely held view that global warming was a result of an increase in carbon dioxide levels caused by human activity.

Senator Fielding said there may well be no need for the Federal Government's planned emissions trading scheme, which would cost thousands of Australians their jobs.

If the Opposition refuses to support the trading scheme, the Government will need the support of Senator Fielding, independent Nick Xenophon and the Greens to get the necessary legislation through.

Senator Wong said the Government had always been willing to talk to Senator Fielding and other parties on the climate change issue.

"The Government's approach to climate change is guided by the consensus science and we are able to provide a briefing on this to Senator Fielding," Senator Wong said. "We are happy to facilitate a meeting between Senator Fielding and Australian Government scientists if requested."

Senator Fielding said he was neither a climate sceptic nor a climate extremist, but was open-minded. He said that as an engineer he was trained to listen to both sides of a debate and climate change science was by no means conclusive.

"Australians must be given the opportunity to debate the possibility that climate change was part of a naturally occurring, 1500-year cycle or an increase in solar activity," Senator Fielding said.

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"Top scientists"??? When the "science" is upside down how do you tell where the top is?
Posted by Ted O'Brien, 9/06/2009 8:19:41 AM
We were told the Barrier Reef was dying because of climate change - a top professor from James Cook University claims it is not. He has been studying it for over 30 years - does he know what he is talking about? How long have the so called climate change experts been studying the climate? The end answer to the climate change is some one is going to make billions of dollars and it won't be the ordinary Australian.
Posted by petro, 9/06/2009 8:46:25 AM
It's a worry that Sen. Fielding misses the crucial point about "seeing both sides" - and he's not the only one. Climate scientists in all their variety have been looking at "both sides" for decades. Despite Plimer, they have been factoring in solar activity, volcanoes, urban hot spots, and all the other red herrings raised by so-called sceptics. If you really believe that climate change is some sort of left-wing political rort, then nobody can change your mind. Belief is belief. But if you are open to rational argument, check the science! Try (for starters) the RealClimate website.
Posted by nico, 9/06/2009 10:14:00 AM
Good for Senator Fielding, it is about time someone stood up and questioned the government over their revenue raising schemes ... I am so sick of feeling guilty about the way I live my life. I live it as cleanly and as healthily as I can. I raise my children to be aware and vigilent about how we live our lives. I truly believe what we emit is a drop in the ocean in comparison to what the universe is doing now and has done for longer than what we can imagine, this is evolution people ... adaptability is the key! Stop making us feel like criminals for the rest of our and our childrens and thier childrens lives. Enough is enough.
Posted by Hope, 9/06/2009 11:14:48 AM
Nice try nico, go back to your inner city area where you are leaning so far to the left your shack is nearly falling over. Man made climate change is a total fraud. Those who want to profit from it are pushing the barrow as hard as they can. I hope one tries to push it into me one day so I can throw it back down the hill where it belongs!
Posted by heater, 9/06/2009 4:17:54 PM
As I said, check the science. It's a puzzle to me that the science is perceived as being "left wing". It's a slow and painstaking process of looking at the evidence, getting rid of incorrect notions, trying to understand global systems (ocean currents, atmosphere, albedo effects, ice melts, and so on).

We've known for decades that CO2 absorbs infrared rays, and that more CO2 will mean less solar energy reflected back into space. It doesn't take much, and we've been pumping CO2 into the atmosphere since the industrial revolution.

A smart community will: 1). Try and minimise global warming and 2). Figure out the high-tech business opportunities which it will present.

Posted by nico, 11/06/2009 4:39:49 PM
Hi there nico. As I have said before, consider this. If made made co2 causes global warming, then where is the evidence of all the billions of people who must have made all the co2 to end the last ice age? If more co2 means higher temperatures then less co2 means lower temperatures. Right? So where did all the co2 suddenly go to swing the world from the Medieval Warm Period to the Mini Ice Age? And if you say that something else caused those changes, then maybe something else is causing any changes we are experiencing now. Anyway, even though co2 levels may be still rising, the earth has been cooling since 1998. How do we explain that?
Posted by ozfirst, 14/06/2009 5:00:51 PM
Please check the science. If you can believe that the leading scientific institutes (eg Scripps, Hadley, CSIRO, the world's universities) are part of an international plot, then there's nothing more to say - there's no arguing with a belief, however bizarre. However if you check the science you will find that climate researchers have been investigating the possibility of a greenhouse effect for decades. They have taken every aspect into account - solar variation, orbital changes, albedo effects, vulcanism - (in other words, they have looked "at both sides of the question"). And they have concluded that greenhouse gases, including CO2, have caused a rise in the global temperature beyond normal climate variability.

The medievel warm period, and the so-called little ice age, were local effects and (in global terms) caused very minor temperature changes. See wikipedia for details. And as for 1998, yes, it was a hot year indeed, and the years following were hot as well. Any graph of global temperature shows peaks and troughs - but look at the trend or average of these zigzags over the last century. It's going up. See RealClimate.

Posted by nico, 17/06/2009 12:09:26 PM

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