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Henry turns table on Joyce during hearing

12 Feb, 2010 05:52 AM
TREASURY secretary Ken Henry has accused opposition finance spokesman Barnaby Joyce of grossly over-simplifying economics, in a fresh blow to the controversial senator's attempts to prove he is up to his job.

With Opposition Leader Tony Abbott under pressure to move him to another portfolio, Senator Joyce asked Dr Henry at a Senate committee hearing whether it was fair to say that if we kept borrowing and debt kept getting larger, this would put upward pressure on interest rates.

''That is a gross over-simplification of economic understanding of these matters,'' Dr Henry said.

He drew Senator Joyce's attention to the early years of this decade when ''as debt was being repaid, interest rates were steadily climbing''.

''So I think we should be … careful not to rush into simplistic relationships between levels of debt and interest rates.''

Senator Joyce has been under sustained attack from the government since he said on Tuesday that Australia was getting to the stage where it could not repay its debt.

Last week he mixed up his figures, and suffered another mental glitch yesterday, when talking about the ''$850 billion blow-outs in the solar panels, $400 billion blow-out in forward expenditure''.

He told Fairfax websites yesterday that if Mr Abbott asked him to leave the finance job, he would go.

''Absolutely,'' he said. ''This is a great honour, being in this building. It's a great honour doing this job but I wouldn't cry in my beer if I left. You know, I would really walk out the door and be a happy man and think I've done my bit for the country.''

Later he said: ''I am staying in finance. No one has suggested anything other than I stay in finance.''

He was not interested in moving to another portfolio - ''it's not on the agenda. It's like saying 'Are you interested in another wife' - how do you answer that?''

Senator Joyce said as shadow finance minister, ''I won't have a personality transplant but I've got to make sure that I won't crap on everybody else.''

Queensland Labor federal MP Graham Perrett was forced to apologise after comparing Senator Joyce to murderer Ivan Milat on Wednesday.

Mr Perrett told Parliament he was from St George, where Senator Joyce lives.

''I have written fiction about the town, but Senator Barnaby Joyce speaks fiction about the nation and he speaks fiction about the economy … Barnaby Joyce is doing to economic responsibility what Ivan Milat did to backpacker holidays.''

Mr Abbott continued to defend Senator Joyce. ''Every time the government goes over the top in its criticism of Barnaby Joyce it actually draws attention to the whole debt problem''.

He said Mr Rudd was showing a lack of proportion in talking about Senator Joyce while he stood by Environment Minister Peter Garrett. ''Barnaby Joyce has not been responsible for programs that have killed people.''

Mr Abbott said the government was reprehensible in the way it was mortgaging the future to fund a spending spree. It had spent too much too soon.

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The psychology of the left-wing intelligentsia renders them incapable of looking past their over inflated egos to see that they are being expertly ‘gamed’ by a man they consider to be their intellectual inferior. The simplistic redneck is a familiar caricature in American politics and no longer fools anyone. Not so the Australian Labor Party it would seem. While ever the debt is kept in the headlines the government is suffering damage.
Posted by Qlander, 12/02/2010 8:41:06 AM
Perhaps, maybe if economics were simplified - we would all more readily understand the waste of money that goes on at all levels of Government !!
Posted by Simple Simon, 12/02/2010 11:03:25 AM
Once again Qlander, you are out of your depth. The person critical of Joyce was Dr Henry - the previous Howard government's key advisor on economic matters - is he part of the left wing conspiracy. As a proud Labour voter, it pleases me greatly that Joyce remains in his position. Failing that, this half witted, red neck boofhead is perfect to be the premier of Queensland
Posted by Steve, 12/02/2010 11:43:53 AM
Barnaby Joyce is a qualified accountant with a practice in St.George. As if he doesn't really know what he is talking about. It would be more pertinent for the Labor party to ask "what is his motive here? Dumb redneck....hmmmm.. i don't think so"
Posted by Duh, 12/02/2010 11:45:26 AM
Let's face it, the Labor party consists of union thugs and people who have only worked with the Labor party as secretaries etc. They have no real world experience, and it is really starting to show. Ken Henry only verbals what his employer Rudd tells him. We all know Rudd is a control freak. Joyce is criticised for mixing up figures, but what about Swan, who took 2 minutes of paper shuffling to find the answer that Rudd had written for him or what about Rudd not knowing the basic cost of goods last week. Labor is running scared.
Posted by jerangle, 12/02/2010 12:41:18 PM
Duh, if you think a qualified accountant from a Queensland country town is, by definition, a highly intelligent and/or highly knowledgeable and qualified person to be a Finance Minister in an Australian government, then you are only confirming what many believe, ie that Queenslanders are from another world. There are accountants out there in country Australia who have difficulty spelling their own names. How is it possible this qualified person (particularly a qualified accountant) does not know the difference between millions and billions, particularly after making the same mistake within the last week or so? Qlander, are you really saying your Boofhead is deliberately choosing to be a hayseed to fox the "left-wing intelligensia"? Your are out of your mind, although you are correct on a couple of things: your old backwoods boy certainly qualifies as a "simplistic redneck" and your so-called left-wing intelligensia do correctly believe that he is "their intellectual inferior". And to finish, the only people seemingly "fooled" by this misfit are like-minded hayseeds. If Barnaby is putting on an act, Qlander, how come he is only fooling his own team, or are they not smart enough?
Posted by Bushie Bill, 12/02/2010 12:59:57 PM
Yet another sprinkling of nonsense from the pro-Joyce cage. Duh honestly believes any qualified accountant is capable of running the national economy. Just what are you guys injecting!
Posted by Steve, 12/02/2010 1:36:11 PM
The last half witted, redneck boofhead that was Premier of Queensland retained power for 18 years transforming it from the Cinderella state into an economic powerhouse. Then Labor took over and the rest is history. Fact is the debt is a government weak spot. While ever it is in the headlines the government is suffering damage. Refer to my first post: These guys would rather lose office than admit they had been outmanoeuvred.
Posted by Qlander, 12/02/2010 1:54:34 PM
Joyce really is the epitome of eveything Queensland. Loud flat earther, a prime recalcitrant and a head firmly stuck in the sand attitude.
Posted by Pete - Upper Murray, 12/02/2010 2:09:16 PM
Qlander - your arguments in support of Joyce (and of Queensland) can be very simply placed in a nutshell as follows. Barnaby is a good bloke and don't you worry about that - because the government will soon have egg on their left foot - you mark my word. Since the Joh for PM days, nothing has changed. It's still clear that once you reside north of the NSW border, you hand over your intelligence in return for loud shirts.
Posted by Steve, 12/02/2010 3:33:53 PM
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