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Turnbull survives partyroom ETS stand off

18 Oct, 2009 06:42 PM
Liberal Leader Malcolm Turnbull's "back me or sack me" stand off over the emisssions trading scheme has ended with his party giving him the green light to pursue amendments by negotiating with the Government.

But Mr Turnbull is still facing the prospect of a Senate revolt if he strikes a deal to amend Labor's emissions trading legislation before the conclusion of international negotiations.

Liberal and National MPs today signed off on a Coalition wish-list of amendments to protect farmers, emissions-intensive, trade-exposed industries, small businesses and power generators.

Support for the amendments have offered temporary respite for the embattled Opposition Leader.

Labor has signalled it is prepared to work constructively with Mr Turnbull to strike a deal to pass the legislation in the Senate. But it continues to insist that its legislation - amended or otherwise - will be reintroduced to Parliament next month, before the December Copenhagen climate summit.

It is at this point that Coalition senators may revolt, potentially putting Mr Turnbull's leadership under greater strain.

A Coalition analysis of Senate voting intentions obtained by The Sunday Age shows almost two-thirds of Coalition senators would be likely to defy Mr Turnbull's wishes, which leaves open the prospect of passing an amended law before the Copenhagen summit.

Out of 37 Liberal and Nationals senators, 23 have been deemed likely to either fail to vote or to vote against amended legislation, according to the analysis, compiled by an opponent of an emissions trading scheme.

Those likely to vote against the legislation include the five Nationals senators led by Barnaby Joyce and Liberals Cory Bernardi, Mathias Cormann, Alan Eggleston, Mitch Fifield, Concetta Fierravanti-Wells, Ian Macdonald and Alan Ferguson.

Only 12 senators have been identified as likely to vote in favour of amended legislation introduced before the December summit, including shadow ministers Eric Abetz, George Brandis, Helen Coonan, Michael Ronaldson and Victorian senators Scott Ryan and Judith Troeth. But because Labor only needs an extra seven votes to pass legislation in the Senate, that would be enough to pass the bill.

Several senior Coalition sources said defiance by at least 20 senators would make Mr Turnbull's position untenable.

"The point is that Turnbull will have created such a division in the Coalition that it is really just all over," said a senior Coalition source who declined to be named.

"The National Party will cross the floor without too much of a concern, but when the Libs start doing it against their own leader - and they won't do it lightly - it's got to be super serious for Turnbull."

Another Coalition source said: "I think Turnbull or any leader is always in a predicament when he can't carry his own party room with him."

Senator Joyce said it was one thing to say yes to amendments to water down a "ridiculous" and flawed "feel-good tax", but another to vote for the legislation.

"When it gets to the end, the National Party will be consistent, it will not be supporting the bill, full stop, and neither will a lot of other people," Senator Joyce said.

The amendments proposed by the Liberal leadership would exclude emissions from agriculture but allow farmers to gain credits to sell on the open market by tree planting and efficient farming practices.

The amendments would also give coal producers added protection by excluding "fugitive" emissions such as methane, emitted during mining.

There would be added compensation for electricity generators and for small businesses hit by higher power costs. Trade-exposed, emissions-intensive sectors such as aluminium and food processing would also gain greater protection.

Climate Change Minister Penny Wong said it was "self-evident" Mr Turnbull would get his amendments past the Coalition party room meeting, but added: "If Mr Turnbull cannot commit to a vote in November, it is clear he has been rolled by the climate change sceptics in his party yet again."

Mr Turnbull said the real test for Senator Wong was to explain why she was determined to force a vote before Copenhagen and provide much less protection for Australian jobs and industries than the US and Europe.

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The ETS is going to seriously affect rural producers, even if we are out of it. If agriculture is included, then the future is dire. Australian Farm Insitute has done modelling that is scary. Urgently send an email to non government Senators, the vote has not been made yet, they are counting the anti-ETS emails comming in. Senators emails can be found at this address - http://www.aph.gov.au/SEnate/sena tors/homepages/index.asp?sort=par ty#LP
Posted by Dale Stiller, 19/10/2009 4:44:24 AM
What people need to realise is that Global Warming is just a ploy for a political movement, there is no proven science, there are 5 people in the IPCC and they convieniently leave some information out of their computer models and present the result as "science". Some politicians are awake and will vote against the ETS, and people need to email/lobby the Senators as democracy and freedom is at risk if this movement continues around the world. We need the media to start investigating the real facts in this sham and start to do what they purport to do - defend our democracy. Blind Freddie can see that our democracy has been seriously eroded by state governments with being guilty until proven innocent, our rights to purchased land removed without compensation and on it goes. Come on people, lobby like your life depends on it as the future of your children and grandchildren certainly does.
Posted by Concerned Northerner, 19/10/2009 6:25:58 AM
The Liberals are jellybacks! They had their chance to get rid of Turnbull and blew it! The only one of them with any fortitude is Ironbar Tuckey!
Posted by tigerdicky, 19/10/2009 7:27:57 AM
You are wrong Tigerdicky, as even though we don't believe in the whole emissions trading scheme, Turnbull is right in that we can't just say No, we have to put alternatives, we have to try and make them change their minds. I know there is no science behind all this but the Labor party and Rudd in particular have staked their reputation, such as it is, and so to fight you have to come down to their level. Like him or not Turnbull has the political cred and will take Rudd and Wong on, just saying No won't change anyone's minds and remember we are in the minority in Government so have to argue hard and he is the only one that seems capable of giving them an argument.
Posted by Mrs Mac, 19/10/2009 10:10:13 AM
Rudd and Wong want to go to Copenhagen and strut their importance, and the only way they can do that is to have an ETS in place in Australia. If they do not get it through they will only be another two turkeys in the pen, and this will not suit Mr Rudd's ego one little bit.
Posted by richo, 19/10/2009 6:11:54 PM

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